We are not afraid

Go Back   Shoe Vomit > Public Forums > Serious Business

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 30-10-2018, 14:56   #11
Enoch Powell
Black-pilled
 
Enoch Powell's Avatar
 
AKA: ENOCH POWELL
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: almost entirely immersed in an online world of "echo chambers" where I feel the pull of extremism
Posts: 100,463
Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Visage View Post
How about you can think what you want, as long as the impact of your thoughts isn't detrimental to the rights of others?
Gays forcing Christians to bake cakes against their wishes infringes their rights.
Enoch Powell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 14:57   #12
Enoch Powell
Black-pilled
 
Enoch Powell's Avatar
 
AKA: ENOCH POWELL
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: almost entirely immersed in an online world of "echo chambers" where I feel the pull of extremism
Posts: 100,463
Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Enoch Powell is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

What you mean is, it's bad when rights are infringed of groups you consider worthy.

The rest: white people, Christians, straight people etc. - they don't matter.
Enoch Powell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 14:59   #13
Stagflation
Hereward
 
Stagflation's Avatar
 
AKA: Stag
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 37,770
Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

Mr 'I love to take the piss out of Christianity' can't see the issue with laws that criminalise people who 'disparage religious doctrines'.
__________________
Quote:
We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.

C.S. Lewis
Stagflation is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:01   #14
Malcolm Tucker
The Enforcer
 
Malcolm Tucker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 81,451
Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Powell View Post
What you mean is, it's bad when rights are infringed of groups you consider worthy.

The rest: white people, Christians, straight people etc. - they don't matter.
Not all Christians are against homosexuality, it's not the 18th century.

The race doesn't matter, black cafe owner refusing whites, or vice versa, shouldn't make a difference. It's not a justifiable business reason, it'd be racism. Dressing it up as 'the rights of the business to serve who they want' is a complete cop out.
__________________
If it walks like a Nazi,
talks like a Nazi,
salutes like a Nazi,
it's probably an FBIPLANTBYJEWSWHOALSODID911BTW
Malcolm Tucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:07   #15
Stagflation
Hereward
 
Stagflation's Avatar
 
AKA: Stag
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 37,770
Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

No, the cafe should face the onslaught of condemnation and loss of business that they'd deserve; but I wouldn't want the state legislating against it.
__________________
Quote:
We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.

C.S. Lewis
Stagflation is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:18   #16
Malcolm Tucker
The Enforcer
 
Malcolm Tucker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 81,451
Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Malcolm Tucker is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

You don't want democratised legislation for basic rights on equality? You'd prefer rights to be determined through literally free market capitalism? Deepest pockets decides our moral philosophy?

Yeah, that'll end well.
__________________
If it walks like a Nazi,
talks like a Nazi,
salutes like a Nazi,
it's probably an FBIPLANTBYJEWSWHOALSODID911BTW
Malcolm Tucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:30   #17
Stagflation
Hereward
 
Stagflation's Avatar
 
AKA: Stag
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 37,770
Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

Okay, you're right; I agree there should be some level of legislation making people equal before the law, which is the opposite of what the OP is about. Whereby someone's feels from a religion are more important than someone's right to express an opinion.
__________________
Quote:
We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.

C.S. Lewis
Stagflation is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:34   #18
Visage
Lord Lucan
 
AKA: Bakez
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 47,151
Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

The law has always distinguished between what you are - race, gender, sexuality - and what you think - religion, political affiliation, cultural bias.
__________________
Visage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:40   #19
Stagflation
Hereward
 
Stagflation's Avatar
 
AKA: Stag
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 37,770
Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Stagflation is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

Except the case in the OP is the issue of someone being criminalised for daring to 'disparage religious doctrines', something you yourself is happy to do from behind a keyboard.
__________________
Quote:
We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.

C.S. Lewis
Stagflation is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-10-2018, 15:43   #20
Visage
Lord Lucan
 
AKA: Bakez
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 47,151
Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.Visage is a cheating bobble-hatted mincebag.
Default

Which is why I disagree with that ruling.
__________________
Visage is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:21.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.